Subject: Re: Automating Disaster Recovery with FCOPY
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Date: Tue Jul 22 2008 - 15:11:34 EDT
I think Tom stated they don't use VM, except when at DR. I agree it would be nice to use DDR (OK, I said it) but there's no way to create such a volume backup with native z/VSE. It would seem like a good enhancement to FCOPY with a new operand of FORMAT=DDR or some such. -----Original Message----- From: LOREN CHARNLEY <LORENCHARNLEY@familydollar.com> To: VSE Discussion List <vse-l@Lehigh.EDU> Sent: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 9:20 am Subject: RE: Automating Disaster Recovery with FCOPY Tom, If you are running VM, have you ever considered backing up your system volumes with DDR? That is how we do it and then the restores are done with a REXX EXEC that will feed the answers automatically, you only have to worry about loading the tapes. We have gone one better and now run the DR from a remote location to the office and use tape handlers that are contracted from IBM. This works for us, just a thought. Cheers, Loren Charnley, Jr. IT Systems Engineer FAMILY DOLLAR (704) 847-6961 Ext. 3327 (704) 814-3327 lorencharnley@familydollar.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-vse-l@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-l@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Duerbusch Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 5:57 PM To: VSE Discussion List Subject: Automating Disaster Recovery with FCOPY I know I've asked similar questions like this before, and didn't get "good" answers. Perhaps I can say it in different terms... (I just came back from another disaster recovery test....) All of our backups for disaster recovery use VSE Fast Copy. Good enough. Nowadays, when you IPL a VSE Standalone tape, we come up with a mini VSE system. That is, ICKDSF, Fast Copy, and Librarian are all selectable, in a very basic full screen display. But watching the "monkey boys" try to key in all the statements necessary (restoring 16 volumes, plus 6 disk Inits), was a very error prone process. (16 volumes get the minimum system up so the rest of the restores can be done online) Under a disaster recovery (test or even live), we will always be running under VM (normally this is a native VSE system). I want to reduce the manual keying as much as possible. In the old days, I could stack the commands under CMS and then let the standalone program go. But now, it is this full screen process. Has anyone been able to either stack the commands to the standalone program, get the standalone program to receive its input from a CMS file (or some other type), run a different standalone program that is a command line version? or something else? I'm almost ready (well not really) to consider a HALLAPI interface to feed the commands to the console. (Just shoot me for ever considering that <G>) I can shave an hour or so off the most boring part of the disaster recovery test, if I get these people out of the way (and let me do it). Monkey boys, poking at the keyboard and then looking at the screen to see if the letter was displayed. TAKES FOREVER! Thanks Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting Law of Cat Acceleration A cat will accelerate at a constant rate, until he gets good and ready to stop. ----------------------------------------- ************************************************************ NOTE: This e-mail message contains PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL information and is intended only for the use of the specific individual or individuals to which it is addressed. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination or copying of this e-mail or the information contained herein or attached hereto is strictly prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, notify the person named above by reply e-mail and please delete it. Thank you.
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