RE: 3592 Tape Cartridges

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Subject: RE: 3592 Tape Cartridges
From: Tom Duerbusch (DuerbuschT@stlouiscity.com)
Date: Wed Aug 19 2009 - 11:33:13 EDT


Hi Ed

I mentally toyed with an USB option.  It didn't seem fast enough.

I've also thought about a laptop, perhaps with an extra drive, that is configured to support VSE VTAPE.  Just send the laptops offsite.  Of course you still need tape (or DVD) to build a minimum VSE system.  For that, I've toyed with the idea of just using the VSE install media.  That would be to install enough to get VSE VTAPE up, and use the laptop server for the restoration process.  

But then again, VSE VTAPE over IP isn't a barn burner when it comes to the under 100 MIPs processors either.

A couple weeks ago, at a disaster recovery test, I sure wanted to use a thumb drive somehow in the standalone restore process.  (vs the 40+ 3480 carts needed for the standalone restore portion of the plan).

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

>>> "Edward M Martin" <EMartin@aultman.com> 8/18/2009 5:06 PM >>>
Hello Everyone,
 
I have been working on that same type of situation.   1)  Do you depend upon the data being correct when you get to your DR site?  2) What happens if the DR site has it's own disaster  evern if it is 60+ miles away?
 
So I have been looking into writting out to a network drive (almost everyone has this option), and then writing/copying to a USB 2.0 or someother connected device.
 
1 TB USB 2.0 is around $120.00.    You would need to put some sort of encrytion software on it.  And maybe you want 5 to 7 for rotation.
 
Or how about your network people and their backups????
 
Anyone?
 
Ed Martin

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From: owner-vse-l@Lehigh.EDU on behalf of David Stuart
Sent: Tue 8/18/2009 12:34 PM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: Re: 3592 Tape Cartridges



Bob, Billy, et al,

I don't argue getting rid of real tape.  But, using an SDS device like Billy, or an MDL like Bob, or a VTA, or a ???, you need someplace to replicate the data to.  We don't have that.  There was a building the County was setting up for that purpose (alternate/emergency data center), but they have decided that it won't work, is not viable (someone pointed out it was in an earthquake liquifaction zone), etc.  So at this point, my only really viable method to be able to restore in a 'disaster' situation is real, physical tape. 

We have Jeff Barnard's Opti-Tape, and we're moving as much of the 'on-site' tape data sets to Opti-Tape as we can.


Thanks,
Dave




Dave Stuart
Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst
County of Ventura, CA
805-662-6731
David.Stuart@ventura.org 

>>> <Rbotsis@aol.com> 8/18/2009 5:58 AM >>>
Dave,

I don't know the cost of the unit/s that Billy mentioned nor any of the 
others (VTA from Universal, CUB from Fundamental and who knows what  others),
but at WAVV Bus-Tech had a session about their ENTRY level (may be  all you
need) MDL or whatever they called it. They stated that the entry level  was
probably going to be priced around 40K. I told them I doubt they'd sell 
many at that price. Maybe they reconsidered, maybe not.

As Billy pointed out and he only touched the surface, getting rid of  REAL
tape and EVERYTHING associated with it, IS the way to  go.


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