RE: 3592 Tape Cartridges

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Subject: RE: 3592 Tape Cartridges
From: Kevin Corkery (kcorkery@live.com)
Date: Tue Aug 18 2009 - 12:56:29 EDT


Dave ...

We sort of do that using a 3590 tape.  We take all of our backups to VTAPE
in VSAM space then offload everything to a single 3590 high density tape for
offsite storage.  We formerly accomplished much the same thing on a Flex/ES
system by offloading all out backups to a SDLT tape.  You could opt for a
tape server device and use a PC based archive methodology either to a tape
device or to an attached external disk.  This has the advantage of using a
very fast and operatorless tape system and reduces your physical handling to
maybe one tape or external disk subsystem per day.  The cost of these
external disks are becoming really cheap.  Of course, there's security
issues that must be addressed but nothing that can't be overcome.  BTW, the
"real hardware" solution isn't too bad considering that any D/R arrangement
will always support an IBM tape solution of some kind; the other tapeless
solutions may not be so readily supported but that really doesn't matter is
you're providing your own backup site. 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-vse-l@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-vse-l@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf Of
David Stuart
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:35 PM
To: VSE Discussion List
Subject: Re: 3592 Tape Cartridges

Bob, Billy, et al, 

I don't argue getting rid of real tape.  But, using an SDS device like
Billy, or an MDL like Bob, or a VTA, or a ???, you need someplace to
replicate the data to.  We don't have that.  There was a building the County
was setting up for that purpose (alternate/emergency data center), but they
have decided that it won't work, is not viable (someone pointed out it was
in an earthquake liquifaction zone), etc.  So at this point, my only really
viable method to be able to restore in a 'disaster' situation is real,
physical tape.  

We have Jeff Barnard's Opti-Tape, and we're moving as much of the 'on-site'
tape data sets to Opti-Tape as we can.


Thanks,
Dave 




Dave Stuart
Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst
County of Ventura, CA
805-662-6731
David.Stuart@ventura.org

>>> <Rbotsis@aol.com> 8/18/2009 5:58 AM >>>
Dave,
 
I don't know the cost of the unit/s that Billy mentioned nor any of the  
others (VTA from Universal, CUB from Fundamental and who knows what
others), 
but at WAVV Bus-Tech had a session about their ENTRY level (may be  all you 
need) MDL or whatever they called it. They stated that the entry level  was 
probably going to be priced around 40K. I told them I doubt they'd sell  
many at that price. Maybe they reconsidered, maybe not. 
 
As Billy pointed out and he only touched the surface, getting rid of  REAL 
tape and EVERYTHING associated with it, IS the way to  go.


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