IOU: Re: Andrew Welburn's scholarship

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Subject: IOU: Re: Andrew Welburn's scholarship
From: Dierk van den Berg (haGalil@gmx.net)
Date: Sun Sep 26 2004 - 19:30:02 EDT


Jeffery,
Yes, that's what I was asking about.
There was/is seemingly a communication problem between the Steiner school
(to answer the question if Welburn's works are some sort of sequel to
Steiner's) and the rest of scholarship.

BTW Similar to V.K.'s experience, the local University libraries of Nijmegen
and Groningen don't have Welburn in stock. Obviously not by chance, I
believe.

tot ziens,
Dierk
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Horace Jeffery Hodges" <jefferyhodges@yahoo.com>
To: "First Century Judaism Discussion Forum" <ioudaios-l@Lehigh.EDU>
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: Andrew Welburn's scholarship


> Dierk van den Berg <haGalil@gmx.net> wrote:
>
> >>What about Manfred Clauss_The Roman Cult of Mithras:
> The God and His Mysteries_Routledge 2001? Different to
> Ulansey, Clauss handles Tarsos with much more caution
> concerning Plutarch's reference to Cilician pirates
> (allied with Mithradates of Pontus) in Vit.Pomp 24.5,
> pointing merely to coins of the mid 3rd c CE (!)
> dedicated to Mithras. A progress in research or a
> 'back to the future'?<<
>
> I don't know. What about it? Plutarch is not central
> to Ulansey's primary argument, so I'm not sure how
> Clauss's arguments on this point affect Ulansey's
> thesis.
>
> I have read Ulansey but not Clauss. My understanding
> is that Clauss is a critic of Ulansey, but whether or
> not he accepts of rejects Ulansey's main point about
> Mithraism using Hipparchus's discovery of the
> precession of the equinoxes to demonstrate the power
> of Mithra to shift the cosmos on its polar axes, I do
> not know.
>
> I've published an article if Vig. Chr. (1997) on a
> Gnostic use of Hipparchus's discovery, so I'm
> interested in this issue, but I'm not up on the
> scholarship.
>
> Anyway, if your point is that Welburn would need to
> have dealt with all of the major recent scholarship on
> Mithraism, then I agree. If Welburn hasn't treated
> Clauss, then his scholarship is flawed. Is that what
> you were asking about?
>
> Jeffery Hodges
>
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