Re: Andrew Welburn's scholarship

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Subject: Re: Andrew Welburn's scholarship
From: Dierk van den Berg (haGalil@gmx.net)
Date: Sat Sep 25 2004 - 16:28:22 EDT


"I see no common basis for a discussion"
What I've said earlier to Barbara Thiering goes here, too.
And yes - I have read Welburn, Brunner-Traut, Steiner and Hitler
the latter three in German - the tongue of Bultmann and Bergmeier.
Too many Germans out there, I believe; at least in the moment.

But perhaps I haven't understood their message correctly...

Shabbat shalom,
_Dierk





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeffrey B. Gibson" <jgibson000@comcast.net>
To: "First Century Judaism Discussion Forum" <ioudaios-l@Lehigh.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: Andrew Welburn's scholarship


>
>
> Dierk van den Berg wrote:
>
> > As a Jew I dont like talk about Steiner's already light-brown Voelkische
> > German Romantik and the Antroposophy.
> > Is that understandable enough for you, Sir ???
>
> It's clear that you don't like Steiner.  I'm not a fan either.  And it
explains
> why you haven't read  Welburn.  But it's still not a straight answer to
the
> question of whether you've actually read Welburn's _Beginnings_.  The
answer is
> either yes or no.
>
> > But I think that you don't want a review - you want a discourse.
>
> No, I want a review -- as my original question shows.  From what I've
gathered
> about Welburn's book, it looks as if it is a rehash of outdated
> Religionsgeshichte schule arguments about the origins of Christianity read
> through the spectacles of Steiner's anthroposophy.
>
> > Nice try.
> > Try this on a more right-orientated esoteric list, pls
> >
> > And I have all three - Wilburn, Bultmann and Bergmeier. And, of course,
the
> > stuff I got from BT
>
> That you *have* them is no indication that you have read them.
>
> > For sure here are more that have these books - ask yourself why nobody
is
> > willing to charge obsolete material with obscure roots.
>
> OK.  I'll ask myself that, even thought it is not plain that the question
is in
> any way relevant to the specific questions I've been asking about
Welburn's
> acquaintance with, say, current Mithraic scholarship and his use of late
> traditions as evidence for his reconstruction of the matrix of
Christianity.
>
> Jeffrey
> --
>
> Jeffrey B. Gibson, D.Phil. (Oxon.)
>
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>
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>
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